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Lakeview Bill
April 17th 05, 04:10 PM
I could use a clarification if you have a moment:
On the rear of the Chicago VFR Terminal Area Chart, several "VFR Flyways"
are depicted.
AIM 3-5-5 a. 1. states: "An ATC clearance is NOT required to fly these
routes."
Assume a VFR flight from KIGQ (Lansing) to KUGN (Waukegan).
My understanding is that one could take off from KIGQ, fly 360 until
intercepting the easternmost VFR flyway, which roughly follows the lake
shore, then continue northerly in the flyway, and never talk to anyone until
reaching the Waukegan Class "D".
Am I correct in this understanding?
TIA
John T
April 17th 05, 05:27 PM
Lakeview Bill wrote:
>
> My understanding is that one could take off from KIGQ, fly 360 until
> intercepting the easternmost VFR flyway, which roughly follows the
> lake shore, then continue northerly in the flyway, and never talk to
> anyone until reaching the Waukegan Class "D".
>
> Am I correct in this understanding?
That is the point of VFR flyways. :)
There were several times I did that very thing in the Washington DC flyway
(before the ADIZ effectively shut it down).
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Michelle P
April 17th 05, 11:51 PM
John,
the only one that has been "shutdown" is the north south one by Dulles.
The other one is still available. You just need to file a ADIZ flight
plan and talk to the "friendly" controllers. ;-)
Michelle
John T wrote:
>Lakeview Bill wrote:
>
>
>>My understanding is that one could take off from KIGQ, fly 360 until
>>intercepting the easternmost VFR flyway, which roughly follows the
>>lake shore, then continue northerly in the flyway, and never talk to
>>anyone until reaching the Waukegan Class "D".
>>
>>Am I correct in this understanding?
>>
>>
>
>That is the point of VFR flyways. :)
>
>There were several times I did that very thing in the Washington DC flyway
>(before the ADIZ effectively shut it down).
>
>
>
Steven P. McNicoll
April 18th 05, 12:27 PM
"Lakeview Bill" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> I could use a clarification if you have a moment:
>
> On the rear of the Chicago VFR Terminal Area Chart, several "VFR Flyways"
> are depicted.
>
> AIM 3-5-5 a. 1. states: "An ATC clearance is NOT required to fly these
> routes."
>
> Assume a VFR flight from KIGQ (Lansing) to KUGN (Waukegan).
>
> My understanding is that one could take off from KIGQ, fly 360 until
> intercepting the easternmost VFR flyway, which roughly follows the lake
> shore, then continue northerly in the flyway, and never talk to anyone
> until reaching the Waukegan Class "D".
>
> Am I correct in this understanding?
>
Yes.
paul kgyy
April 18th 05, 03:05 PM
Yes, you can do that, but be careful. All traffic in both directions
tends to fly between 2000 and 2500 ft MSL within a mile of the
lakeshore. This is a fine recipe for mid-air collisions, especially
with Meigs tower no longer available and no CTAF to announce position
and intentions.
john smith
April 24th 05, 06:00 PM
paul kgyy wrote:
> Yes, you can do that, but be careful. All traffic in both directions
> tends to fly between 2000 and 2500 ft MSL within a mile of the
> lakeshore. This is a fine recipe for mid-air collisions, especially
> with Meigs tower no longer available and no CTAF to announce position
> and intentions.
And, it is often hazy and difficult to spot other aircraft going any
direction!
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